Excerpts
from media roundtable with Assistant Secretary of Defense for International
Security Affairs Peter Rodman, August 21, 2001
Q
Mike Hedges (ph) with the Houston Chronicle. You mentioned Colombia is an
area you are looking at. Can you give us a little bit of an insight into
your thinking about how things are unfolding there and what the next round
will be in the training there?
MR. RODMAN: Well,
it's -- all I can say is it's an issue we are looking at, and there --
I mean, there is a formal review going on, as you would expect, and I
think the new administration does want to look at it and come to its own
conclusions about what the right strategy is. This is an issue of which
there is enormous congressional sensitivity. And so I think whatever policy
we end up with ought to reflect not only an administration judgment about
what it makes sense to do, but as much of a bipartisan consensus as it's
possible to achieve. I mean, I can't say anymore about where we are heading,
because there are no conclusions yet. But it's something -- it's -- some
agonizing decisions there, and I think there's a consensus that there's
an important American interest, but there is not necessarily a consensus
about what the right way to serve that interest is. And, as I said, we
are going through an intellectual process at the moment, the new administration,
and I wouldn't attempt to point to where we are going to come out.
Q Excuse me. By
"congressional concerns," are you talking about, number one,
putting U.S. -- possibly putting U.S. troops in harm's way; and, number
two, human rights concerns? Is that what you're --
MR. RODMAN: Well,
I'm not speculating about it. But just -- I was struck in my own hearing
and in confirmation hearings of some of my colleagues in the Armed Services
Committee that there are a lot of -- there's concerns about are we getting
deeper into a conflict or not, or what is at stake -- is it just narcotics,
or is there some wider stake we may have in the survival of a friendly
democratic government. And I was sort of intrigued to hear senators on
both sides of the aisle with different views on it. So, as I said, I think
we as a country are not quite sure where we are heading, and there is
a process going on now rethinking which, you know, I hope -- I mean, I
think it's maybe possible for us to form some sort of consensus in the
country about what it makes sense to do. I certainly wouldn't speculate
about whether it will end up.
Yes?
Q Jim Dow (ph) from
the New York Times. Following up on that, when you talk about review,
are you referring to specifically on relations with Colombia, or is it
more broadly about the military's role in drug interdiction? And could
you talk a little bit about --
MR. RODMAN: It's
an interagency review, and I don't think it has any limitation. You know,
how should we handle the drug review? Should there be -- you know, should
our policy on engagement, which obviously includes a military component,
should it -- you know, should it have a rationale beyond just narcotics?
Again, I don't want to prejudge where it's going to end up, but I think
any new administration would have come in and looked and say, Where are
we heading there, given the military engagement? And yet, given our stake
in Colombia, as a democratic government in our own hemisphere, you know,
that we have a stake in. So, again, I don't want to -- I can't give you
any more of a clue about where we are going.
Q Is there a time
table for finishing the review?
MR. RODMAN: I don't
think so. I mean, it's something -- you know, we were kind of late getting
started. I mean, there were -- it -- it's only in the summer that we --
at least as I was aware of -- a systematic review, and it's underway,
and I am not aware of a deadline.
Q Yes, Esther Schraeder (ph), Los Angeles Times. Can you give us an understanding
of the administration's thinking as to the use of private contractors
in fighting the drug war again in Colombia and elsewhere in Latin America?
MR. RODMAN: Well,
it's another topic that I am not an expert on. I know that there is a
personnel cap on our personnel in Colombia that includes -- under which
we have some private contractors and some U.S. personnel. You know, I
really don't have anything very illuminating to say about that. I mean,
the fact that there is I think a legislative cap shows that the Congress
is interested in the question. So I think that it is -- it's important
that there be again some consensus between the executive branch and the
Congress about how we engage in some of these areas, whether it's contractors
or direct U.S. personnel. It's not a very illuminating answer. But I --
that's the way it is.
Q I'd like to take it back to Colombia, if I could for a second, just
for a clarification. President Bush did say that this was a priority area
for him. You said that the review is looking at whether our engagement
there should have some rationale beyond narcotics. Might the United States
have an interest in the military defeat, over and above the narcotics
issue, might the United States have an interest in the military defeat
of the rebel forces there?
MR. RODMAN: Well,
I would just say we have an -- I mean, one could argue that we have an
interest in a friendly democratic government and its ability to exert
or exercise its sovereign authority over its territory. But it's not an
unreasonable thing to think about. But, as you know, our policy up till
now has focused on the narcotics, and that's for a combination of reasons,
including the importance of the narcotics issue to this country, and also
to that -- that seems to be what there was a consensus on, given the sensitivities.
So, again, we are looking at that. And I think Congress ultimately has
to play a role here to see if we can get -- well, I don't want to invent
any new formulations on this, precisely because it's so sensitive, and
because we haven't come to conclusions. But I mean you are right to say
that's -- anyway, many different interests that one could identify in
that situation.
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