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Last Updated:6/16/06
Radio Interview on NPR's To the Point

June 7, 2006

Air Pollution, Atomic Power and Nuclear Weapons--in India
Hosted by Warren Olney


Listen to the entire Broadcast from NPR.org

Summary

Since economic liberalization in the 1990's, India has industrialized at record speed. While growth of 7 or 8% a year has led to American-style consumerism for those who can afford it, that's come at the price of massive pollution, with health-consequences for all of India's people. Now, a new study shows pollution by deadly chemicals--some at 32,000 times accepted levels. India's "brown cloud" is a major contribution to worldwide contamination and global warming. President Bush has offered technology for atomic power, even though India could use it to develop more nuclear weapons. Will the US Senate decide the nuclear package rewards India for ignoring the non-proliferation treaty? We hear the results of the extraordinary two-year study and find out what it means for the rest of the world.

Excerpt from the Interview

Warren Olney: Explain to us, if you will, exactly how this nuclear package would work in India. What are its components?

Selig Harrison: Well, first of all, tying this into what you’ve just heard, the problem that has led India to ask for civilian nuclear cooperation with the U.S. as its main priority in relations with the U.S. is precisely the fact that India has had to rely, up until now, on coal and oil and fossil fuels for its energy needs and it isn’t able to keep up with its energy needs.

So what India is after and what the U.S. has agreed to do, is to provide U.S. civilian nuclear technology, which would open the door to other foreign nuclear technology as it’s all tied together in the non-proliferation regime and would enable India to bring in a lot of nuclear power reactors to add to its energy supply without adding to the pollution that is resulting from all this CO2 from coal and oil. And that’s one of the main reasons, one of the big attractions from the point of view of the United States, was the global warming impact, the fact that this would reduce India’s CO2 emissions.

If you look ahead, projecting up to 2015, a three fold increase in India’s nuclear capacity would reduce expected annual CO2 emissions by more than 170 million tons, which is about the total current emissions of the Netherlands. That improvement in air quality would grow as the nuclear capacity grows.

At the moment, India’s nuclear capacity is a very tiny proportion of its energy program so I thought Mr. Raman’s comments were a bit off the mark. In fact, the nuclear safety problems that he mentioned would be assisted by the India-U.S. civilian nuclear cooperation agreement. Up until now, the U.S. has not been able to help India with nuclear safety at all. We haven’t been able to touch it, because we’ve had a kind of taboo on cooperation in the nuclear field with India resulting from the fact that India decided that it had to go nuclear, facing China as it does, facing Pakistan as it does, facing a non-proliferation treaty that it considered quite unequal, in which China was accepted as a nuclear-weapons state and therefore had the right to get nuclear reactors from the U.S.

So I think that this India nuclear deal that the Bush administration is trying to get through the Congress would have many advantages.

Guests on the Show

NITYANAND JAYRAMAN
Advisor to Community Environmental Monitoring, an organization engaged in environmental and health-monitoring in villages in southern India

RUTH GREENSPAN BELL
Director of the International Institutional Development and Environmental Assistance Program at Resources for the Future in Washington, DC and author of "What to do about Climate Change?" in the current issue of Foreign Affairs

SELIG HARRISON
Director of the Asia Program at the Center for International Policy, he has specialized in South Asia for fifty years as a journalist and scholar

DAN HIRSCH
President of the Committee to Bridge the Gap, a nonprofit nuclear-policy organization focusing on issues of nuclear safety, proliferation and disarmament



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